alien invasion 1870 thread.

[papal duke]

this is basicly a attempt at a shared world game.

an alien civilization with interdimension transport happened to have stumbled onto earth and want to add it on their list of conquered territories, which already number 17 planets. the red spots represent portals used by the alien republic to ship troops and equiment to the planet. it can transport 3 legions( 1 legion consist of 10,000 troops) a day, as well as 20-50 ton of supplies each day. the red dots in the ocean represent artifical harbors created to work as naval bases for battle ships,as well bases for troops to be ship to attack islands. they have 1920 tech.

http://www.counter-factual.net/upload/attachment.php?attachmentid=502&stc=1&d=1232073514

( yes i know its a 1885 map,but i couldnt find a 1870 one)

so lets begin picking countrys to play has.

[The Last Marylander]

Can I take the UK?

[papal duke]

Can I take the UK?

sure.

and btw i am not planning on playing as the aliens so someone will have to mod the alien actions.:)

[Agentdark]

Providing this gets off the Ground, Germany for me.

[Admiral Canaris]

I thought we'd agreed to discuss the games before we launch them?

But if it's in, I can play Russia.

[papal duke]

Providing this gets off the Ground, Germany for me.

so far

uk- mikey
agentdark-germany
Admiral Canaris - russia
still need someone to mod the aliens.

[bobc]

so far

uk- mikey
agentdark-germany
Admiral Canaris - russia
still need someone to mod the aliens.

I'd like to be the aliens.

[papal duke]

I'd like to be the aliens.

okay you shall be the aliens.

[bobc]

an alien civilization with interdimension transport happened to have stumbled onto earth and want to add it on their list of conquered territories, which already number 17 planets. the red spots represent portals used by the alien republic to ship troops and equiment to the planet. it can transport 3 legions( 1 legion consist of 10,000 troops) a day, as well as 20-50 ton of supplies each day. the red dots in the ocean represent artifical harbors created to work as naval bases for battle ships,as well bases for troops to be ship to attack islands. they have 1920 tech.


Does the legion get artillery, trucks, tanks along with the 10,000 troops?
What about aircraft?
Draft animals?
How can the naval bases be used when there is no weight of ships included in the transport quota?
The quota is for all 15 portals combined per day?
Presumably stuff can be shipped back from the portals and across to another portal, maybe using up twice its weight from that days transport quota?
If a portal isn't in use, it is not noticed?
Some sort of 1920 tech radio works across the portal?

[papal duke]

Does the legion get artillery, trucks, tanks along with the 10,000 troops? yes
What about aircraft?yes, but only for scounting missions
Draft animals?as in war animals? only generals use horses, and is more of a tradition thing.
How can the naval bases be used when there is no weight of ships included in the transport quota?the portals used for the ship bases can ship more weight than their land counter parts but cost more money to maitain.
The quota is for all 15 portals combined per day?only the land ones.
Presumably stuff can be shipped back from the portals and across to another portal, maybe using up twice its weight from that days transport quota?yes.
If a portal isn't in use, it is not noticed?nope, its not noticed.
Some sort of 1920 tech radio works across the portal?yes
well i couldnt put anymore details last night cause it was late.

[bobc]

well i couldnt put anymore details last night cause it was late.

So, 10,000 troops with their equipment per day total, to be distributed over 10 land portals.
Some other quota of ship tonnage to be distributed over 5 naval portals?
Generally 1920 tech. Do they have the capability of 1920 type bombers?
Mustard gas?
Zeppelins?
Edit: What date in 1870?

[papal duke]

So, 10,000 troops with their equipment per day total, to be distributed over 10 land portals.
Some other quota of ship tonnage to be distributed over 5 naval portals?yes but i havent decided yet.
Generally 1920 tech. Do they have the capability of 1920 type bombers?no.
Mustard gas?no.
Zeppelins?some
Edit: What date in 1870? october 25.
fillers of doom.:chuckle:

[Ward]

I will take the union or the United States

[papal duke]

I will take the union or the United States

it would just be united states, the csa was defeated 5 years ago.

[JC Denton]

Oh good, somebody wants to inject a fresh idea. I thought I'd wait until the big ME got set up....

I'll take Japan.

[papal duke]

Oh good, somebody wants to inject a fresh idea. I thought I'd wait until the big ME got set up....

I'll take Japan.

good, your added to the list.

british empire- mike

germany-agentdark

Admiral Canaris - russia

bobc- the aliens

ward- united states

JC Denton- japan

[Ward]

it would just be united states, the csa was defeated 5 years ago.

But rember the old states of the CSA were occupide by Northern troops tell 1872 .:innocent:

[papal duke]

But rember the old states of the CSA were occupide by Northern troops tell 1872 .:innocent:

well i dont remeber a country called csa in 1870.:chuckle:

[bobc]

well i dont remeber a country called csa in 1870.:chuckle:

I understand what Ward is saying.
He'll control the US government, but if there exists some former CSA revival trying to use the alien presence as a means to resume the US Civil War, someone else should run the renewed CSA forces.

[papal duke]

I understand what Ward is saying.
He'll control the US government, but if there exists some former CSA revival trying to use the alien presence as a means to resume the US Civil War, someone else should run the renewed CSA forces.

well putting it that way i agree.

[Ward]

I understand what Ward is saying.
He'll control the US government, but if there exists some former CSA revival trying to use the alien presence as a means to resume the US Civil War, someone else should run the renewed CSA forces.

Guys rember the south was occupide territory by northern troops for years after the Civil War . Why do you think there is so many major Army posts in the south .:secret:

[papal duke]

Guys rember the south was occupide territory by northern troops for years after the Civil War . Why do you think there is so many major Army posts in the south .:secret:

well we all know why, but thats not very important to the topic.

[JC Denton]

Yeah, there were some minor insurrections, like this one in North Carolina recently mentioned on SHWI, but none of them had any force to seriously challenge the federal government.

[papal duke]

well lets get back on topic, so anyone else have any claims?:secret:

[bobc]

Let's get this started.
Needs Spain, Austro-Hungary, Cuba, and general coverage for any other place.
Probably 1 player could handle all the minor places if needed, or maybe have some second claims.

Edit: Also needs coverage for factions within the US, such as former CSA rebel types.

[bobc]

well lets get back on topic, so anyone else have any claims?:secret:

Why don't you take the unclaimed nations so it can get started?

[papal duke]

Why don't you take the unclaimed nations so it can get started?

sure thing.:)

[bobc]

So, 3 legions per day total.
What is the ship tonnage per day?

After that we can start at a slow pace, where the first few in-game days not much has happened that is visible to the nation's governments, since there is overland telegraph and a trans-Atlantic telegraph, but no radio.

[bobc]

So, 3 legions per day total.
What is the ship tonnage per day?

After that we can start at a slow pace, where the first few in-game days not much has happened that is visible to the nation's governments, since there is overland telegraph and a trans-Atlantic telegraph, but no radio.

Can you answer in the thread about the tonnage of ships?
about 1,000 to 2,000 tons. the portals can ship 60 to 70,000 tons each day.

I'll assume that means each ship is 1 - 2 kT, with all the sea portals a total of 60-70kT/day.

I'll write up the opening moves of the aliens now, keeping the sea portal weights vague, to be filled in when clarified.

[bobc]

I'll assume that means each ship is 1 - 2 kT, with all the sea portals a total of 60-70kT/day.

I'll write up the opening moves of the aliens now, keeping the sea portal weights vague, to be filled in when clarified.

A typical warship would be the British S class Destroyer from WW1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S_class_destroyer_(1916)

Type: Destroyer
Displacement: 1,075 tons
Length: 276 ft (84 m) o/a
Beam: 26 ft 9 in (8.2 m)
Draught: 10 ft 10 in (3.3 m)
Propulsion: Brown-Curtis, steam turbines, 2 shafts, 27,000 shp
Speed: 36 knots
Range: 250-300 tons of oil
Complement: 90
Armament:
3 × QF 4-inch (101.6 mm) Mark IV guns, mount P Mk. IX
1 × QF 2 pdr Mark II "pom-pom"
4 × Lewis Guns
2 × twin tubes for 21 in torpedoes
2 × fixed 14 in tubes for torpedoes

[bobc]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_by_past_GDP_(PPP)#1870

percent of world gdp by purchasing parity calculation:
British Empire 24.1
Qing China 17.2
United States 8.9
Russian Empire 7.6
France 6.5
Germany 6.5
Italy 3.8
Africa 3.6
Japan 2.3
South America and Central America 2.0
West Asia 2.0
Spain 2.0