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Commissar
08-05-2009, 07:16 AM
List of targets in the U.S. likely to be hit by Nuclear Weapons (http://www.survivalring.org/cd-targets.php)
Every state is included and its a long list divided into Primary, Secondary, and Tertiary targets.
For example, my home state of Michigan.
Primary:
Sawyer AFB (SAC bombers, Gwinn), Xinchelee AFB (SAC bombers, Sault Ste. Marie), Selfridge AFB (Mt. Clemens), Wurtsmith AFB (SAC bombers).
Secondary:
Detroit (area within a line connecting Pontiac, Ann Arbor, and Monroe east to state line).
Tertiary:
Alpens, Bay City, Battle Creek, Benton Harbor, Escanaba, Sault St. Marie, Midland, Saginaw, Muskegan, Flint area, Grand Rapids, Port Huron, St. Claire, Lansing, Kalamazoo, Jackson.
Ghost88
08-05-2009, 11:03 AM
First off if that is a list FEMA or Homeland Security is using then the Secretary of Homeland Security should be fired as she of all people should know that Williams AFB in Arizona has been closed for 15 years and the Titan Missile Silos everywhere for 20 or so. The only active Titan sites I know of are one thats a Museum and one that has been converted into a private residence. :secret:
American God
08-05-2009, 12:11 PM
This obviously dates back to the Cold War - Alameda NAS is listed, along with the Titan silos and other long-closed sites.
It would be a nice resource for someone writing an 1970s ATL. For modern, not so much.
Commissar
08-05-2009, 03:10 PM
First off if that is a list FEMA or Homeland Security is using then the Secretary of Homeland Security should be fired as she of all people should know that Williams AFB in Arizona has been closed for 15 years and the Titan Missile Silos everywhere for 20 or so. The only active Titan sites I know of are one thats a Museum and one that has been converted into a private residence. :secret:
The base will still be targeted in any case as it is an alternative field available for the USAF to use.
Stalin's Pipe Organs
08-05-2009, 07:01 PM
Cool, I'll be sure to use this whenever I make a TL. Which hopefully I wont be too lazy to do.
stalkere
08-29-2009, 05:21 PM
VERY OLD LIST
For example -
Michigan:
Sawyer AFB (SAC bombers, Gwinn), closed in 1995
Kincheloe AFB (SAC bombers, Sault Ste. Marie), closed September 30, 1977
Selfridge AFB (Mt. Clemens), Air National Guard base since 1971
Wurtsmith AFB (SAC bombers). closed in 1993
three of the four targets have been closed for years. one does have reserve refuelers on base, but still....
stalkere
08-29-2009, 05:35 PM
The base will still be targeted in any case as it is an alternative field available for the USAF to use.
That might work for Williams, but - this list has Chanute...The runway was closed in 1970. When I was there in '86, the runway was in such bad shape, I wouldn't want to land anything but maybe a light civilian plane, and that, only in an emergency. What it looks like now?
You have McCoy AFB - that has been dug up and made into condos. You can't even see where the runway WAS anymore. same for Gunter, although hitting Maxwell will at least take out a bunch of Colonel's and General-selects at the Air War College. Oh, snap, that will IMPROVE the efficiency of the Air Force, won't it? Nah,, better not do that.
Rick Deckard
08-29-2009, 07:44 PM
Freaky stuff! It shows the podunk town I grew up in (Bel Air, Maryland) as a secondary target! During the Cold War, we suspected we would get slammed by the nuke meant for Baltimore/BWI and survivors would get the fallout from DC and/or Dover AFB. But to think Ivan might have had a MIRV specially set aside for us...its just touching!
American God
08-29-2009, 08:53 PM
Freaky stuff! It shows the podunk town I grew up in (Bel Air, Maryland) as a secondary target! During the Cold War, we suspected we would get slammed by the nuke meant for Baltimore/BWI and survivors would get the fallout from DC and/or Dover AFB. But to think Ivan might have had a MIRV specially set aside for us...its just touching!
You're from Bel Air?!!!
I'll be damned. My wife is from Bel Air. Small world.
Commissar
09-03-2009, 07:25 PM
Freaky stuff! It shows the podunk town I grew up in (Bel Air, Maryland) as a secondary target! During the Cold War, we suspected we would get slammed by the nuke meant for Baltimore/BWI and survivors would get the fallout from DC and/or Dover AFB. But to think Ivan might have had a MIRV specially set aside for us...its just touching!
You would actually be hit by Bombers. Ballistic Missiles have high failure rates so the Soviets and the U.S. piled on several missiles to the same target to account for failures, misses, defenses, etc.
This is why Anti-ABM people are the lowest scum imaginable. Just by placing several ABMs such as Nike around key installations that the Soviets must hit, would have greatly reduced the death toll in any shooting match.
It was beyond criminal negligence for McNamara to gut ARADCOM. The Soviets would have had to utterly bankrupt themselves to get an overwhelming number of Harden Missile Silos and Control Centers to overwhelm the Nike Defenses which were far cheaper.
American God
09-04-2009, 02:31 PM
You would actually be hit by Bombers. Ballistic Missiles have high failure rates so the Soviets and the U.S. piled on several missiles to the same target to account for failures, misses, defenses, etc.
As I recall from my last visit there, Bel Air is pretty close to Aberdeen anyway. I can't imagine the Sovs not hitting that in any large-scale exchange. Ten or twelve miles isn't very far when dealing with thermonuclear weapons. Rick and my future wife would not have fared well in the 80s if that had happened, I'm afraid.
Commissar
09-04-2009, 04:44 PM
As I recall from my last visit there, Bel Air is pretty close to Aberdeen anyway. I can't imagine the Sovs not hitting that in any large-scale exchange. Ten or twelve miles isn't very far when dealing with thermonuclear weapons. Rick and my future wife would not have fared well in the 80s if that had happened, I'm afraid.
I ran a quick check and you would actually escape unharmed from the detonation of a 1.4 megaton warhead.
The Soviets would be targeting the Proving Grounds specifically with at most 500 kiloton warheads in any case. I even accounted for a few hits in Aberdeen itself and you were still outside the thermal and pressure effects.
The Fallout would even be blown away from you towards Annapolis.
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