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general_tiu
10-21-2010, 03:47 AM
This timeline was inspired by Chris' post, probably even ripped it out. I am thinking of a Gundam timeline that was original but contained elements from the canon Gundam timelines [and there are seven of them]. So here's my take and the first part.


2010s-2050s

The worsening economic crisis had sparked further unrest, with cutbacks in government spending. A scandal in the European Parliament involving bribes between its parliamentary members, as well as scandals in the national parliaments, had caused many officials to be arrested, or being forced to run for their, or rather, take their own lives.

The scandal had repercussions in the European Union. Integration of various European states was almost halted. Many of the more powerful nations in the EU formed their own power blocs. France for example had its own power bloc, shared by Spain and Italy, as well as Germany, which had formed its own power bloc in Eastern Europe using the German banks as leverage. Britain is considering to minimize its European Union commitments and has already influenced Ireland and the Commonwealth states of Cyprus and Malta. The Scandinavians formed their own power bloc. The maverick in the European blocks is Poland, who didn't like the idea of the European Union being turned into a German-dominated bloc, given its history.

In America, irregularities and factional infighting in the Democratic Party had deflated the chance of Barack Obama to be re-elected. Coupled with that is the prevalence of independent, "Tea Party", and Republican candidates, not to mention the sudden emerging of a dark horse United States Nationalist Party, using the dolphin as its symbol. The basic problems confronting America and its new Republican president were great, and uses tax cuts to improve the economy.

A good majority of al-Qaeda leadership, including Bin Laden himself, were killed in clashes in the Afghan-Pakistani border. Although the Islamist threat subsided, it was still present.

With the UN and the EU with financial problems, the Palestinian territories had experienced more hardship than ever. Still many of its leadership refuse compromise with Israel, and the new US President being very pro-Israel, the situation looked worse.

Iraq had undergone some trouble after Iraqi Kurdistan declared independence after a row about more autonomy. Although the situation might degenerate into another civil war, it was eventually defused. Turkey was deterred from intervening in Iraqi Kurdistan; it was decided that Kurdish Turks were allowed to emigrate to the Kurdish homeland. The rest of Iraq, meanwhile, had stabilized into a democracy, largely free from the burden of violence, and the Kurds.

Kim Jong-il had bit the dust in 2012, December 21 as a matter of fact. Only a huge storm in the Atlantic was there any "proof" of Doomsday. In any case, the world didn't end. Kim Jong-un cannot assert power though he succeeded him; the power of the generals as well as Kim's family is too strong to enable him to control the country effectively. Turns out, Kim was a genuine reformist who once said, if the North Korean people were to be re-unified by the South, it must be economically sound. North Korea's economy had degenerated even more.

This situation had forced other Asian countries to follow stringent measures. South Korea, after a hard decision, decides to secretly build nuclear weapons. Taiwan followed suit, having the technology already to produce bombs. The wildcard turned out to be Japan, which after a North Korean missile had hit Mount Fuji, had decided that their total pacifism had utterly failed and barely amended Article 9 of the 1945 Japanese Constitution. It also built nuclear weapons secretly; the destruction of a very small asteroid threatening the International Space Station by an "anti-asteroid device" by the JASDF had many in Beijing, Seoul, Pyongyang, even Taipei, Moscow and Washington, almost batshit insane. However, even China could do little about it, now that it was preparing to invade Taiwan.


Russia re-asserts its influence between the ex-Soviet states. However, the Baltics escaped Russian domination due to Polish and Scandinavian intervention. Surprisingly, not one ex-Soviet state was annexed by Russia, not even Belarus. As a matter of fact, Russia had LOST more territory by granting some of the more troublesome Northern Caucasian states such as Chechnya independence just to appease them. It didn't stop the terror bombings by Islamists, who were now weakened by the deaths of Bin Laden, but it did stabilized the region for good. The US and the European states were unable to intervene, and never did so because Russia had granted some of the troublesome Northern Caucasian states independence.

The European Union is reduced effectively into a talking shop, though it did not collapse. The Commonwealth of Nations, on the other hand, grew in strength after Britain tries to re-invest their energies there. More rightist governments had taken over. Although in Germany, for example, a new right-wing party had taken over, it was not neo-Nazi as their detractors claimed. More rightist governments took over in Spain, Portugal, and France.

A Helium 3 powered fusion system was invented, by a Filipino scientist, and turned out to be practical. It boosted and revived interest in space exploration, and the dreams of sci-fi writers had becoming more true than ever. The US invests more money in NASA and had a former USAF officer to run NASA. Private corporations such as Virgin had been given tax breaks to develop SSTO systems and do private work in space. That same Filipino scientist later encourage the fledgling Philippine nation to invest their future in space and end their overdependence with other rich nations. In time, slowly but surely, by the 2050s, it regained its position as the leading nation of South East Asia, and uses its power of the helium-powered fusion system to curb the other ASEAN nations' power. The United States had greater benefits, though, having the better funds and technology, but Russia, Japan, Korea, and the European states also benefit as well as other First and Second World nations.

Meanwhile, conservation is the rule of the day. By the 2020s, technology had been developed for power conservation, creating viable battery-powered cars. Oil then has since relegated into the manufacture of petrochemicals rather than as energy source, although the peak oil that was expected turned out to be mainly a shock. Battery-powered cars had created a revolution; pollution had been curbed, and also made a region insane.

Middle Eastern states had been affected by the oil glut, although due to petrochemicals, were still able to hold on. But not for longer. Iraq, and Kurdistan, had been wise enough to diversify their economy, as well as Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon. Not so much in Saudi Arabia. Fattened enough by oil funds, the Saudi leaders' finances had tottered; investment to the Gulf States had dried up. Islamists had been briefly revived by the collapse of the Gulf States, but they did not held for long as they needed the Westerners. The infrastructure of Gulf States had collapsed. Iran had blown into pieces but was restored as a weak democracy, even though it had to cede territory to the Kurds, the Azeris, the Pakistanis, as well as a Azadi kingdom in western Iran with Tabriz as capital.

This had caused some panic, now people were concerned at who will control Mecca. So the Egyptians, Jordanians, Iraqis, Turks, Kurds, and Iranians had tried to control the Holy Cities; the Jordanians won control, and with good reason. Prior to the rise of the House of Saud, the Hashemites had once controlled Mecca and Medina, now with the rightful guardians in place, it also solves the Palestinian problem; by reintegrating them back to the United Hashemite Kingdoms of Jordan, Palestine, and Hejaz, and the Jordanian King had announced a formal apology against the Palestinians. While many Palestinians doubt the wisdom of rejoining Jordan, many accept it, as their economy is still in tatters and the only viable alternative besides being annexed by Israel. The Palestinians get many benefits and eventually talk of Palestinian independence died down completely. Hashemite Arabia, as it was called, was one of the most prosperous states in the Middle East. The rest of the peninsula were stabilized by Iraq, though it never annexed any territory.

A North Korean general had staged an assassination of Kim Jong-un and gets away with it. He then attacks not South Korea, as it was expected, but China.

China in the meanwhile, had reached its economic breaking point. Strikes and riots are getting common. Ethnic minorities such as the Tibetans had been agitating for independence. The deathblow was in Manchuria, where the rather poor economic conditions there had enabled the disgruntled miners and factory workers to rally to a political movement to separate Manchuria from China. The leader was a pretender to the Qing and Manchukuo dynasty throne. The government in Beijing tried to crush the movement, but it turns out that the forces sent against the separatists had defected, including their generals. Beijing had asked the North Koreans for help. However, the North Korean forces were overwhelmed by the "Manchus", who had a nuclear weapons aimed against them. These weapons, tactical in nature and of low yield, had destroyed whatever North Korea had of a nuclear weapons in one single stroke, and as well as four North Korean field armies. Although the Manchurian rebels could use the nuclear weapons against the rest of China, for mysterious reasons, it didn't so, though retaliation by the rest of China is a factor. A "Manchu" taskforce had killed the entire North Korean leadership in Pyongyang, including the North Korean general, and infamously flew the yellow Manchukuo flag that was also the flag of the rebel movement. The South Koreans were concerned that the rebels' plan seemed to be more like genocide of the Korean people rather than the overthrow of the North Korean communist regime; so it proposed to the remnants of the North Korean forces to band together and expel the "Manchus" and Chinese who were now overruning Northern Korea. The North Koreans, without hope, accepted it. He also reasoned out with the "Manchu" rebels to side with the Koreans, and so a cease fire was instituted with the Manchu and Korean government.Korea had been reunited with a price, and Manchukuo was restored. By the 2050s, both are technically called Empires again, convincing Japan to become officially an empire again.

However, the Chinese had been trying to avenge their defeat, and attempted to use their remaining loyalists. However, the Russians stabbed them on the backs when Moscow had listened to the Uyghur rebels in Kashgar and stepped in; New Delhi had listened to the Tibetans and the ethnic Chinese who were fed up by Chinese interference in their government and had sent their force to Lhasa. This had provoked the Pakistanis and Chinese, who used their atomic weapons against India. India, however, had got them first by nuking Chongqing despite their no first-strike policy. While China did survive as a rump state composed mainly of East Xinjiang, and Eastern Tibet along with the majority of China proper, the convulsion had spread further. The southern provinces had defected to the Taiwanese, along with the PLA units there. The loyalists tried to stop them, but the ROC and the southern rebels were too well-armed. A ceasefire was initiated, and China was to be divided into China, still called the People's Republic but only mildly democratic-socialist, and the Republic of China, whom despite its reappearance in the mainland, had still its capital in Taipei.

It also had repercussions in Southeast Asia. The military junta of Myanmar had been overthrown not just by pro-democracy rebels and druglords, but by Indians and Bangladeshis as well as Thais. Burma since then had evolved into a confederation.

Rudimentary mechs are being experimented in the USA, Europe, Russia, China, Korea, and Japan, the last being named the Mobile Suit, and a humanoid one, albeit unwieldy.

Alex
10-22-2010, 12:28 PM
The only thing I am iffy on this far is Russia letting Chechnya go. Russia would rather commit mass genocide than let it happen, because it becomes a question of national pride as opposed to practicality, and Russians are very particular on this. That's one thing they will not let happen even if they have to turn the entire zone into a glass wasteland (although most likely, they would just pour in troops in there and get far more brutal than they already are).

Chris
10-22-2010, 01:10 PM
Fascinating timeline...

Chris

MNPundit
10-22-2010, 01:14 PM
The only thing I am iffy on this far is Russia letting Chechnya go. Russia would rather commit mass genocide than let it happen, because it becomes a question of national pride as opposed to practicality, and Russians are very particular on this. That's one thing they will not let happen even if they have to turn the entire zone into a glass wasteland (although most likely, they would just pour in troops in there and get far more brutal than they already are).
No, they wouldn't turn it into a glass wasteland but I do agree that it would take more than what's written for them to let it go.

Alex
10-22-2010, 01:55 PM
No, they wouldn't turn it into a glass wasteland but I do agree that it would take more than what's written for them to let it go.

I might have been exaggerating a little, but yeah, it would take some SEVERE problems in Russia proper for them to let the Chechens go (not to mention any Russian politician that does it will not survive in politics for long).

general_tiu
10-25-2010, 09:15 PM
2050-2100

An ambitious plan is put into motion. NASA had announced that they are building a new space station based on the Bernal sphere. Called Eden, this was the first endeavor to really settle space. Man had already returned to the moon in 2030 [USA] and went to Mars in 2038 [America again]. Now, they are attempting to establish a real presence in space by having human settlements there. Lunar bases and asteroid bases were now commonplace.

Meanwhile, a team of British scientists had claimed to have discovered both time-travel and parallel-universe hopping. However, this was mocked by the scientific community, and it will be so for the next centuries.

The Middle East had been stablilized for good. The Iraqis for example, had installed Mosehn Ismail, a liberal reformer of mixed Azeri and Iranian origin, as the King of the Iraqi buffer state of Azadistan to its east. It's a mix of Azeris, Iranians, Arabs, and Kurds. Egypt had puppetized all the other North African states, and to stabilized, it asked the former Egyptian monarchy to rule again as constitutional monarchs. However, the bitter experience with Islamization had made Egypt less Arab to the point that the official term for the King is "Pharoah" and all rulers of an independent or at least autonomous Egypt had been retroactively designated as Pharoahs. This was largely the work of the Egyptologist Zahi Hawass, who was also an Egyptian nationalist and start to view Egypt as merely an Arabophone country rather than as a Arab country, and more importantly, as a distinctive culture of its own right. It came to the point that Egyptian Arabic had evolved to into the Musri language by the 2100s, giving Egypt a new cultural era. Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, North Sudan, and the Sahara had become puppet monarchies of Egypt, rivaling Greater Jordan [Jordan+Palestine+Hejaz], Iraq, and Israel.

To facilitate the building of space colonies, solar orbital elevators were constructed in the 2070s.

New nations emerged in the late 21st century, notably micronations. Sealand had decided to move to space completely, thanks to financial backing by a rich magnate who was a Sealand "citizen". Meanwhile, groups of Japanese had settled in New Guinea, who were dissatisfied with the increasingly nationalistic Japan. They had made a deal with the Attha, Sahak, Siran, Karak, and Miran families on a group of islands called Aube. Meanwhile, parts of West Flanders had declared independence from Flanders [long seceded from the Walloon Kingdom of Belgium] as Veume-Sancland.



South Asia is still much in a mess. India had been balkanized [though still existed as a rump state], but one bright part of the situation is now Afghanistan of all nations is the fastest growing economy in the region. Mainly due to minerals, but mostly because it supported the Baluchistani independence movement and caused Baluchistan to become independent of Pakistan in 2067 and it became essentially an Afghan puppet. Afghanistan is still poor, but stable. Conservatism had been clipped away if not completely.

The Middle East had been stabilized though still poor. For the first time, Mecca and Medina, excluding the mosques, of course, had been opened to non-Muslims by the Jordanian King. Reconciliation was the word for the day. Saudi Arabia had been forcibly democratized under Iraqi and Jordanian control, though the Sauds remain in power, but as constitutional monarchs.

Space elevators have been built in Gabon, in Indonesia, and in Ecuador. This accelerated the space boom. The rudimentary mechs called mobile suits are used to build orbital habitats and help in mining asteroids. Lunar bases such as Granada have been constructed, and heavy industries have been pushed into orbit to reduce pollution. Many nations, including poor ones, have joined the quest, fearing that they will be left behind [and possibly their entire nation-state be thrown out into space]. Meanwhile, Titan had been opened by Britain and claimed it for the entire Commonwealth. This gave the British and their dominions some advantage. In response, the Americans, Russians, the Asians, and the Europeans also colonize parts of the Solar System.

Meanwhile, the US is increasingly Hispanized. There is some Aztlan movement going on. Now, a New America movement had started in the South and although the US is immensely more powerful than both NA and Mexico, the war lasted for 10 years before the backbone of the Mexican insurgency is broken, and most of the US Southwest is retaken, but at the price of accepting the independence of the southern United States as New America, or rather the revived Confederacy. As of 2300, the wounds had been healed, but never completely.

Meanwhile, the US colonies into the moon became the Armstrong and demand representation from the US Congress or secede unilaterally or join New America. They get statehood, as well as District of Columbia which had been agitating for statehood for decades. Meanwhile, other American colonies had made similar demands to the US Congress.

By 2090s, the Lagrange Points had been swamped by orbital colonies, with new Stanford Torus-shaped and O'Neill cylinder style colonies propping up like mushrooms. These, along with Martian colonies, now agitate for complete integration to their mother country or threaten independence if they wont.

Meanwhile, the mobile suit, that new mech of the future, had been militarized by then, first by Japan, then by others. Pledges to de-militarize space went to naught. First military spaceships built by the US, Britain, and Russia [the latter establishing the first space force in 1997].

general_tiu
10-25-2010, 09:15 PM
2050-2100

An ambitious plan is put into motion. NASA had announced that they are building a new space station based on the Bernal sphere. Called Eden, this was the first endeavor to really settle space. Man had already returned to the moon in 2030 [USA] and went to Mars in 2038 [America again]. Now, they are attempting to establish a real presence in space by having human settlements there. Lunar bases and asteroid bases were now commonplace.

Meanwhile, a team of British scientists had claimed to have discovered both time-travel and parallel-universe hopping. However, this was mocked by the scientific community, and it will be so for the next centuries.

The Middle East had been stablilized for good. The Iraqis for example, had installed Mosehn Ismail, a liberal reformer of mixed Azeri and Iranian origin, as the King of the Iraqi buffer state of Azadistan to its east. It's a mix of Azeris, Iranians, Arabs, and Kurds. Egypt had puppetized all the other North African states, and to stabilized, it asked the former Egyptian monarchy to rule again as constitutional monarchs. However, the bitter experience with Islamization had made Egypt less Arab to the point that the official term for the King is "Pharoah" and all rulers of an independent or at least autonomous Egypt had been retroactively designated as Pharoahs. This was largely the work of the Egyptologist Zahi Hawass, who was also an Egyptian nationalist and start to view Egypt as merely an Arabophone country rather than as a Arab country, and more importantly, as a distinctive culture of its own right. It came to the point that Egyptian Arabic had evolved to into the Musri language by the 2100s, giving Egypt a new cultural era. Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, North Sudan, and the Sahara had become puppet monarchies of Egypt, rivaling Greater Jordan [Jordan+Palestine+Hejaz], Iraq, and Israel.

To facilitate the building of space colonies, solar orbital elevators were constructed in the 2070s.

New nations emerged in the late 21st century, notably micronations. Sealand had decided to move to space completely, thanks to financial backing by a rich magnate who was a Sealand "citizen". Meanwhile, groups of Japanese had settled in New Guinea, who were dissatisfied with the increasingly nationalistic Japan. They had made a deal with the Attha, Sahak, Siran, Karak, and Miran families on a group of islands called Aube. Meanwhile, parts of West Flanders had declared independence from Flanders [long seceded from the Walloon Kingdom of Belgium] as Veume-Sancland.



South Asia is still much in a mess. India had been balkanized [though still existed as a rump state], but one bright part of the situation is now Afghanistan of all nations is the fastest growing economy in the region. Mainly due to minerals, but mostly because it supported the Baluchistani independence movement and caused Baluchistan to become independent of Pakistan in 2067 and it became essentially an Afghan puppet. Afghanistan is still poor, but stable. Conservatism had been clipped away if not completely.

The Middle East had been stabilized though still poor. For the first time, Mecca and Medina, excluding the mosques, of course, had been opened to non-Muslims by the Jordanian King. Reconciliation was the word for the day. Saudi Arabia had been forcibly democratized under Iraqi and Jordanian control, though the Sauds remain in power, but as constitutional monarchs.

Space elevators have been built in Gabon, in Indonesia, and in Ecuador. This accelerated the space boom. The rudimentary mechs called mobile suits are used to build orbital habitats and help in mining asteroids. Lunar bases such as Granada have been constructed, and heavy industries have been pushed into orbit to reduce pollution. Many nations, including poor ones, have joined the quest, fearing that they will be left behind [and possibly their entire nation-state be thrown out into space]. Meanwhile, Titan had been opened by Britain and claimed it for the entire Commonwealth. This gave the British and their dominions some advantage. In response, the Americans, Russians, the Asians, and the Europeans also colonize parts of the Solar System.

Meanwhile, the US is increasingly Hispanized. There is some Aztlan movement going on. Now, a New America movement, mainly composed of neo-Confederates, had started in the South and although the US is immensely more powerful than both NA and Mexico, the war lasted for 10 years before the backbone of the Mexican insurgency is broken, and most of the US Southwest and South was retaken as well as well as preventing another secession. As of 2300, the wounds had been healed, but never completely.

Meanwhile, the US colonies into the moon became the Armstrong and demand representation from the US Congress or secede unilaterally. They get statehood, as well as District of Columbia which had been agitating for statehood for decades. Meanwhile, other American colonies had made similar demands to the US Congress.

By 2090s, the Lagrange Points had been swamped by orbital colonies, with new Stanford Torus-shaped and O'Neill cylinder style colonies propping up like mushrooms. These, along with Martian colonies, now agitate for complete integration to their mother country or threaten independence if they wont.

Meanwhile, the mobile suit, that new mech of the future, had been militarized by then, first by Japan, then by others. Pledges to de-militarize space went to naught. First military spaceships built by the US, Britain, and Russia [the latter establishing the first space force in 1997].

Alex
10-26-2010, 08:13 AM
I'm a bit confused as to this Confederacy... any particular reason for their rebellion? They would not be quite Aztlan-ish...

general_tiu
10-26-2010, 07:36 PM
They are sort of Southern ex-Tea Party activists who were disgusted at the current US government. Many of them are indeed neo-Confederates that oppose the Republican Party due to its historic role at the US Civil War. Plus the Hispanic population had infiltrated the Deep South and even though many of the Hispanic Americans are Protestants already, some of the militant Southerners still view them as closet Catholics and are colluding with the socialist-communist-fascist whatever.

general_tiu
01-29-2011, 07:21 PM
Sorry if it took so long.

2100s-2200s

Meanwhile the space elevators are completed, accelerating emigration to space. For the first time, the population of Earth has been declining not through war, but through emigration to space. The poorest peoples on Earth are willing to emigrate just to have a better life.

Many multinational corporations decide to emigrate and build orbital colonies as their HQ rather than be restrained by their national governments.

Also, many groups seeking political and religious freedom, such as the Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and even the Scientologists of all peoples, as well as Anarchists, capitalists, Roma, many indigenous tribes, had established nations on the asteroid belt. Law and order truly almost broke down.

As of 2150s, the Earth Sphere, as it was called, was divided into orbital colony clusters. The first colony cluster completed was named after US President Benjamin Zarn. The second was after German Chancellor Gunther Hatte. The third was named after Prime Minister Toshiya Munzo. The fourth was named after French President Guillaume Loum. The fifth was named after Mu Anjing, the Chinese President, but later shortened and corrupted into Mua. The sixth was odd, named after Jordanian space tycoon Abdul Rahman al-Riah, and later was called Riah. The seventh was after British Prime Minister Richard Noah. A distant relative of his later had a high position in the British Royal Space Navy.

Then there are the lunar and Martian colonies.

Some of the Earth nations had conceded defeat to the space autonomists like US and the British Commonwealth, prefering to give them independence instead. The Europeans didn't get the message well, and soon, the European colonies on the Moon are in a massive revolt. Even Munzo is now siding with them, declared a Space Republic. A major revolt happened on Von Braun City on the moon, eventually spreading to other lunar cities, even consuming the pro-Earth cities. They took control of the mass-control drivers to push lunar rocks towards the Earth. By then, the However, the Earth nations had a trump card; the Gundam class mobile suits. Gundam was so-called as such because the metal, Gundamium, that this mech was made from is first discovered from a Pakistani village called Gundam. The Gundamium alloy that was specifically made for that mecha, however, can only be utilized in space and was costly to make indeed. This made Gundamium very valuable, even more so than gold or platinum.

So the prototype Gundam have helped defeat the Von Braun rebels with ease. But that's not the complete story. It was said that that an Alsatian French who goes by the name Le Comet Rouge had been a thorn in the side of the legendary Gundam Model 001, piloted by a Japanese-American from California.

Meanwhile, by the end of the century,Antarctica, by now numbering at this time has been declared a republic by Esperantists, numbering 23 million, many live in domed cities, protecting the already altered environment in some ways. Even Martian and Jovian orbital colonies are considered independent nations. The 2nd Jupiter Exploration Fleet unfortunately had declared the entire Jupiter Sphere and Empire with Zeusia, the most populous orbital colony, as its capital, by 2195.